Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | mwhooker's commentslogin

could not have said it better


this is not funny. this is less funny then when engineers sit around and make puns about ruby idioms


this is useless. In the python interface they are obviously lists. Is the author arguing that cpython implements them as C arrays? I don't know because the terms weren't defined.

If the author believes clarity will arise from pedantry, maybe he should start with wikipedia

> In computer science, a list or sequence is an abstract data type that implements a finite ordered collection of values, where the same value may occur more than once.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_(abstract_data_type)


I was about to post something very similiar.

There's nothing uniquely strange about Python's list type being backed by an array: that is even given its own type in Java (ArrayList: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/ArrayList... which implements List<> so it "is" a list).

I think the perhaps weirdest thing about Python's list API is that it supports indexing, which is rarely done on linked lists due to the cost involved. In Python I got the feeling that it's known/expected that indexing is fast.


Well, he seems to be complaining about exactly that, "Python lists aren't lists because they're implemented internally as arrays". I agree that this article is pointless.


"10000 year old lamp shows mesolithic man used quantum mechanics"


If learning anything makes us worse at something we should just stop learning


Or just stop learning the things that make you worse?


Tell that to pandora, cthulhu and heroin.


compelling story, but I'd like to know how he translated an ip address in to a street address.


Perhaps it was something like:

  1. OP finds an IP in [insert-not-so-large-irish-city-name-here].
  2. OP remebers having a friend in [not-so-large-irish-city],
     somehow obtains his IP (which is not a hard thing).
  3. Bingo, adresses match!
  4. OP is confused, but then remembers that his friend has 
     teenage soon, so he calls the friend to ask about the kid.
In other words, if it were some random troll, he wouldn't be able to do this.


Or maybe Chloe tried to slip through the subnet while Miles traced his physical location by looking at the binary (http://blog.sfgate.com/tgoodman/2006/04/25/this-doesnt-make-...). That last season of 24 made me realize how little I knew about networking.


Here's a possibility: On his blog he has a field to enter in your email address to subscribe to posts. If he's recording IP addresses there's a good chance his friend (not the son) would have put in his email to follow. Once he got the IP address of his Troll he could have just looked in his registration table on an off chance there was a match.


Well, there's a few possibilities. For example, if the ip address was associated with a DN, you could do a reverse-lookup and then do a whois.


Also he might know the friend's ip if the friend sent him an email.


Knowing the IP is the easy bit.

Taking that IP and finding a street address is the tricky bit.

It can be done with court orders. (In England. I have no idea how Ireland does it.)


If he knows the friend ip, he knows that they both match (friend = troll).


Ah yes, sorry. I missed that.


I'm also curious about this.

One option would be to lure the troll to a site & pull down the location info from his browser - I'm not sure how readily the troll would authorize that, but maybe with some clever social engineering it could be done. His father did mention he was on his mobile a ton, so it's possible he got pretty accurate data, instead of just his local ISP. (Related - I'm on Clear right now, and apparently I'm in Portland. I'm actually up near Canada.)


It could have been something as simple as politely asking the ISP or the police. Given some of the circumstances which transpired and how difficult it may or may not be to get the ISP to give you the street address, I wouldn't be surprised if they went, or at least tried, that route.

Keep in mind he translated three ip addresses into street addresses and two of them turned out to be public hotspots.


I doubt asking kindly would yield personal information. This kind of social engineering can be used for bad as well and I'd doubt they'd leave the justice and investigative powers in the hands of a citizen.


That was my first thought too. My guess would be a shortened URL that redirected to a private server, which then redirected to some Facebook contact form. Facebook message times could then be roughly correlated with IPs harvested from logs from the private server.


Find the ISP and ask for the user's information, either formally (with police assistance) or informally (pay someone for the info).


Looks like 10 text books (read: ~$100 each) with no descriptions and referral links to Amazon.

edit for clarity.


The Dragon Book alone tops your estimate by about 15%.


I think he meant ~$100 each.


let me save everyone some time:

> Jim Keller, the chief designer behind the A4 and A5 chips used in Apple's iPhone and iPad products has joined AMD as chief architect and VP


I found this paper on the "semi-living artist" mentioned in the article fascinating. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2533587/

Answered a lot of my questions about how the brain was cultured and stimulated.


Not sure if the two are related, but http://youarelistening.to/ has this for a couple other cities.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: