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Hey man Sam and Elon gotta eat

That's not really true. Unauthorized access to a system is a crime regardless if there was damage.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030


Ah I see you're releasing OpenAI from being the one controlling the tools and giving the agent agency.

I'd argue they intentionally accessed systems they weren't meant to as they were the ones running the bots.

I don't think you or I would get the same leniency if a bot on our network did the same.


>I don't think you or I would get the same leniency if a bot on our network did the same.

Well yeah, because if you coded a bot, realistically the two options are: 1) bot that crawls random sites/computers 2) bot that crawls random sites/computers, while trying a password list. The former is probably legal, there are whole companies dedicated to doing that, eg. shodan. With the latter, it's pretty obvious you're intending to break into computers, and hard to argue otherwise. Where openai lies on the spectrum between the first case and the second case is up for debate, but it's hard to argue it's anywhere close to the latter. Maybe you'd have a point if openai gave it a prompt like "you're a hacker for anonymous, just do whatever :)".


> but it's hard to argue it's anywhere close to the latter.

No it absolutely isn’t. These things did not learn hacking from thin air.


But the intent behind and manner of the learning is important. Similar to the difference between a chemistry professor delivering a lecture at a university versus someone paid to provide instructions to a known terrorist organization.

You read your own source?

>having knowingly accessed [...]

>intentionally accesses a computer without authorization [...]


intentionality was not what you were addressing, nor was it what the GP was clearly responding to.

I think they meant it more as

"Let parents decide if their kids can use this tool and have them prevent access to it if not."


I love this but "Follow us on Instagram!" is maybe a little counterproductive.

Also behind Cloudflare's moats.

> Thankfully the supreme court seems to agree here in two ways

I'm sure we're a golden statue or private jet away from the supreme court having a change of heart there.


It’s called a deluxe motor-coach and it’s the most important currency in our democracy, apparently.

Ah just like the good 'ol days


Hey bud - maybe stop posting about "the Chinese threat" for a little bit.

You prefer stories about vim?

From the latest month of that poll

Overall: 56% Republicans: 77% Independents: 53% Democrats: 37%

Which only polls registered voters not all Americans. So that 55% number isn't exactly as representative as one might believe.

https://cis.org/Arthur/Latest-HarvardHarris-Poll-Shows-Incre...


How is that not “representative?” The 56% number is literally 56% of the polled population, with republicans being higher, democrats being lower, and independents being right on the number. And Harvard-Harris is a top polling outfit.

Do you think 53% of journalists who label themselves independent agree with the 53% of independents in this poll?


Just pointing out there are skews depending on one's general leaning as well as it excludes about 30% of Americans who aren't registered to vote.

Over and over and over and over again it has been shown that there is no meaningful voter fraud whatsoever. Stop watching Fox News or as I see below reading yahoo news lol

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Amen my white brother. When is senior hour at the buffet? You know how we get in our age

White, black, yellow, red, or brown. 10 or 90. The truth remains.

Do you hear yourself?

>Do you hear yourself?

Do you?


You realize you're the one repeating demonstrably false statements?

>You realize you're the one repeating demonstrably false statements?

That you believe a lie doesn't make what I have to say a lie.


> Saying a thing over and over doesn't make it true.

Even saying it once doesn't make it true. Apply that to everything you have said.


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Why are you lying about what the other person said? They said "no meaningful fraud" as in there's not an amount of fraud that can actually change the results.

>Why are you lying about what the other person said?

Why do you see the truth as a lie?

>They said "no meaningful fraud" as in there's not an amount of fraud that can actually change the results.

Except there is plenty of evidence across the world for over twenty years of "meaningful fraud that could change election results" happening. Heck, it actually goes all the way back to the Civil War and while history records Lincoln being elected, the cheating was such his election almost wasn't.


>Why do you see the truth as a lie?

I don't. Read what I said again. You were lying about what the other person said, i.e. attacking a strawman.

>Except there is plenty of evidence across the world for over twenty years of "meaningful fraud that could change election results" happening.

No there isn't, not in the US. Substantiate your claim.


I hate these comments. What meaningful thing is this person supposed to do?

In the US, the government is _owned_ by corporations. To pretend otherwise is naive.


You vote out the worst party.

Then the remaining party splinters into groups and you vote out the worst half of those two.

Rinse, repeat.

Are they both bad? Probably.

Are the equally bad? Not even remotely.


If I am the evil corporations owning the state I would love to make all citizens pathetic cynics who think they have no capability for change and therefore bears no responsibility.

How is this different from observed reality. No, don’t chicken out and try to get out of the question with something witty: give a proper answer.

Well I guess you are the smart one who will win! Put us all to shame, please.

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