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Yes, and it's rarely enforced. Most of the time its activation is at the employer's discretion.


It's not just that it's rarely enforced it's that it's rare at all, there's no point in putting one in the contract when there's 95% chance you'll get big fat middle finger in whatever labor court has jurisdiction if you try to activate it, and inane contractual obligations are a risky bet for the contract itself.


> there's no point in putting one in the contract when there's 95% chance you'll get big fat middle finger in whatever labor court has jurisdiction if you try to activate it.

There's potentially plenty of point if you don't expect your employees to understand that (or be able to count on it)


That's how it works in the US, most of the time a non-compete is entirely unenforceable.


In New York, the fear that drives some of us [edit:] to [not fight against] non-competes [on an individual level] is the threat of expensive litigation. If I get sued by my employer, it might cost us the same but I can't afford the legal costs as much as they can afford them. In New York State, commonly it's expected that the courts will enforce a year of non-compete, even if the contract is for more.

It's nice to say that contracts are freely entered into. They are not freely fought over when things are disputed, however. We're not on an equal playing field if my employer can afford legal representation and I can't, and that's a very real financial threat that is a form of coercion.


The threat that you can get sued makes you very cautious in your selection of your next job.

In one of my previous gigs, the language of the non-compete was so broad that it engulfed in scope the entire industry - being legal language it was borderline ambiguous, one of those things you could argue either way. Anyway, that 'argue either way' piece could encompass what's basically the biggest and highest-paying employing industry in IT here.

One guy I knew there had told me that, after he got an offer from a new employer, sent them the non-compete of this current place - and never heard from them again. It was for a mid-level manager role in a large corporation in a very cautious (in a CYA way) industry. It was even worse because both of us has understood from management that they'll probably not enforce it, unless one of the partners feels resentful and could send the lawyers your way.

It has a chilling effect that's totally beyond the scope of the usefulness of the employer demanding the non-compete, especially when you encompass a whole industry.

I think that the right approach is to legislate to make them illegal (like in California, right?), or enforce some compensatory aspect like in some countries as people in this thread mentioned (eg. I'd love to be paid 70% of my salary during the period of non-compete). The most likely scenario in favor of the employee right now I believe is the courts having the employer show that damage was committed in order for the contract to be valid. I'm pretty sure this employer got around that by tying the non-compete+non-solicitation to stock option grants!


I agree. This is sort of like a lot of constitutional issues. The forth amendment is clear, you can't take cash off of people without charging them with a crime. The problem is you have to be wealthy to fight it.


Depends on the state. I live in Illinois. It's been enforced plenty of times here. They tend to argue over what is a 'reasonable' restriction, and it goes back and forth. For example: http://www.w-p.com/Articles/Illinois-Non-Compete-World-Now-E...

And in 2013, the TekSystems recruitment company sued its former employee (a recruiter) over a noncompete and it got upheld in Illinois court: http://paulporvaznik.com/court-can-shorten-overly-broad-non-...


It seems that the same standard applies there, even if the judges in Illinois seem take liberties with it. From the first link:

"3. Question: Does an employer still need to have "adequate legal consideration" in a non-compete agreement?

Answer: Yes"

It appears they have to compensate you for the agreement. Federal courts have ruled that your wage is compensation for your regular duties and thus the non-compete compensation has to be a separate payment that is negotiable. A contract is not valid if a party receives nothing in return for it.

"Consideration to create a legally enforceable contract entails a bargained for, legal detriment incurred by the promisee OR a legal benefit to the promisor. Under the notion of "pre-existing duties", if either the promisor or the promisee already had a legal obligation to render such payment, it cannot be seen as consideration in the legal sense."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration


Well it doesn't stop just about every company from adding it into their employee contracts. Out of the last six jobs I've had here in Illinois, five of them had non-compete agreements, including two startups, one small business, one major corporation, and a contracting company (TekSystems).

The one job that didn't have a non-compete was a student job I held at the university while I was taking classes there.

None of them offered to pay me extra outside of the salary for 'consideration'. I've ended up switching which industry I work for with pretty much every job I've had (still software dev though), so it hasn't been an issue so far.

That being said, knowing that they're there has affected my decision making, including holding back on releasing games I developed in my spare time, to the point where I've been tempted to move to California to escape such bullshit.


Well, I got this clause in all of my (two) employment contracts. Never heard of someone fighting over a non-compete, though.

(I live in France)




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