Have you read what was said on the campaign site? If not - here is the important bit:
"In recent news there have been numerous shocking cases of sex trafficking and child rape films that were hosted on Pornhub. A 15-year-old girl who had been missing for a year was finally found after her mother was tipped off that her daughter was being featured in videos on the site — 58 such videos of her rape and sexual abuse were discovered on Pornhub.
Her trafficker, who was seen in the videos raping the child, was identified using surveillance footage of him at a 7-Eleven where he was spotted with his victim. He is now facing a felony charge.
In February 2020, the BBC reported the harrowing story of 14-year-old Rose Kalemba from Ohio who was taken at knifepoint, raped for 12 hours, and the crime scene videos of her abuse were uploaded to Pornhub. Rose said that she pleaded with Pornhub to remove the videos of her rape and torture for months, and it wasn't until she posed as a lawyer and threatened legal action that Pornhub finally took them down.
These are not isolated cases. In 2019 the Internet Watch Foundation stated that it alone had confirmed 118 cases of child rape and sexual abuse on Pornhub—half of the videos were Category A level abuse, which includes penetration and sadism.
Likewise, the Sunday Times investigation into Pornhub reported finding "dozens" of illegal abuse videos within "minutes", including abuse images of children as young as three years old. Some of the videos identified by the newspaper's investigation "had 350,000 views and had been on the platform for more than three years." It went on to say "three of the worst clips still remained on the site 24 hours later."
>> Her trafficker, who was seen in the videos raping the child, was identified using surveillance footage of him at a 7-Eleven where he was spotted with his victim
If I understand this correctly, both the victim and the trafficker / rapist were found because the video was on PornHub, right?
It's super scummy that they didn't take it down after, and you have to wonder how many people got further into these "interests" because of the footage, but this little detail complicates my feelings on how this should be handled. Would they have ever rescued the victim or charged the perpetrator if this had been on darker channels only?
Have you seen their model verification stuff? I don't say there's no improvements to be made, but what I saw when I looked at it last year seemed pretty strict.
> Would you really expect a smut peddler to behave ethically?
I would hold them to the same ethical standards as any other industry. There's nothing inherently unethical or immoral about porn; your ad hominem in silly to say the least.
Porn is inherently immoral though. It's self-serving and degrading. It weakens the mind and spirit and results in a weakening of society. Also, just because you don't like a description doesn't mean that it's an ad hominem.
One of the abused girls asked PH to take down that video for months.
And it's not just that girl - here let me highlight another bit of text from the campaign site.
"Likewise, the Sunday Times investigation into Pornhub reported finding "dozens" of illegal abuse videos within "minutes", including abuse images of children as young as three years old. Some of the videos identified by the newspaper's investigation "had 350,000 views and had been on the platform for more than three years." It went on to say "three of the worst clips still remained on the site 24 hours later."
If we temporarily put aside the question of me being a monster, is there any evidence that fighting with the images helps in any way to prevent the actual crime? People playing violent video games do not go to the street killing people as a result of that, if anything they become less likely to get involved in actual crime. Do you expect someone accidentally seeing such a video to be "converted" by it and to attempt to do such things himself, or do you see some other harm done by not removing these videos?
FYI i do not support watching porn, using drugs, drinking alcohol, and all the other things that used to be frowned upon by different religions, but trying to prevent such thought-crimes and self-harm crimes by law instead of persuasion have always caused more harm than good.
I think you missed the point. This has nothing to do with thought police or trying to ban porn itself.
It's not about the viewer becoming an abuser him/herself.
It's about creating porn with people who are being abused, exploited and trafficked.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a violent porn video.
This is about the owners of those porn platforms having to take this issue more seriously - which they didn't according the investigations, i.e. profit is more important than investing more money in their platform to detect and take down those videos with trafficked and exploited people.
I understand that, what i don't understand is why do people consider deleting a number so important. No matter how was it obtained, it's just a number and deleting it doesn't benefit anyone. (Arguably leaving it online may even help, as it will make new videos of the same kind less profitable.)
Hopefully in a few years, when neural nets will be able to generate such videos with anyone, people will stop obsessing over deleting numbers.
"In recent news there have been numerous shocking cases of sex trafficking and child rape films that were hosted on Pornhub. A 15-year-old girl who had been missing for a year was finally found after her mother was tipped off that her daughter was being featured in videos on the site — 58 such videos of her rape and sexual abuse were discovered on Pornhub.
Her trafficker, who was seen in the videos raping the child, was identified using surveillance footage of him at a 7-Eleven where he was spotted with his victim. He is now facing a felony charge.
In February 2020, the BBC reported the harrowing story of 14-year-old Rose Kalemba from Ohio who was taken at knifepoint, raped for 12 hours, and the crime scene videos of her abuse were uploaded to Pornhub. Rose said that she pleaded with Pornhub to remove the videos of her rape and torture for months, and it wasn't until she posed as a lawyer and threatened legal action that Pornhub finally took them down.
These are not isolated cases. In 2019 the Internet Watch Foundation stated that it alone had confirmed 118 cases of child rape and sexual abuse on Pornhub—half of the videos were Category A level abuse, which includes penetration and sadism.
Likewise, the Sunday Times investigation into Pornhub reported finding "dozens" of illegal abuse videos within "minutes", including abuse images of children as young as three years old. Some of the videos identified by the newspaper's investigation "had 350,000 views and had been on the platform for more than three years." It went on to say "three of the worst clips still remained on the site 24 hours later."