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Van Gogh hiding at the back of a Toulouse-Lautrec drawing (theartnewspaper.com)
81 points by antismarm on Feb 2, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments


I saw the other one at an exhibition - Van Gogh sitting in a cafe - and I have to say the digital scans on the Internet are so wrong. I was shocked. Self-correcting digital cameras and the low-grade image formats are killing everything. Just know something, if a digital scan of a famous painting didn't impress you it's likely the quality of the scan that's to blame.


I think I know what you mean, and surface texture effects on light/shadow are certainly lost in most captures. Even when effort is made to capture 3D/depth information it is difficult to show. In fact, I would say that the most likely point of loss is actually your monitor. Even if web formats (like "theartnewspaper.com") have tiny unexpandable images there's no reason not to have barely compressed images at much higher resolutions and high bit depth.

PC monitors are usually lower resolution than you can see, while their color accuracy and contrast range are notoriously poor. 8-bit sRGB is simply not able to carry visible color gamut and contrast without loss. I'd recommend only using TVs or very high end monitors for viewing something like art. The captured data is likely much higher resolution (e.g. >1000ppi) and scanned in Raw with 36bit (12bit RGB) color. It's possible to screw up, but there's not a lot of reason to.

The new 10 bit HDR standards (Rec2020 etc) are much better and can come close to human visible range without gamma compression. If you stand at the right distance from a 4k OLED or better a 6k XDR Pro Display rotated to the correct aspect ratio, you can approach what the eye is capable of... if view tracking and light source modeling were used you might even start to emulate some depth.


Check out some of the high-res 3D surface scans of paintings that were done by Hirox a while ago. They really give you the chance to see some of this work on a screen. Seeing the detail when zooming in is quite stunning.

This is "girl with a pearl earring": https://www.micro-pano.com/pearl/


I noticed that as images of van Gogh's "Starry Night" kept cropping up recently in various unrelated media. All of them looked like paint-by-number pictures. The original has impasto brushtrokes and bold streaks of barely-mixed colour everywhere and you can spend hours finding joy in the implied detail and the movement and the expressiveness. The online versions inspire you as much as a single panel in a comic strip.

Internet scans do to visual art what mp3s and earbuds did to good music. The arts have morphed to fit the new media but the technology has caused a loss of ability to appreciate for what came before.


It does look like him.

3D faces from famous paintings https://www.cunicode.com/works/artfaces


Wouldn't be surprised, as it seems he was friends with Van Gogh. Coincidentally, just watched a film version of his life - dramatized in the 1952 film Moulin Rouge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulin_Rouge_(1952_film)


Thanks for the recommendation. Check out the brilliant "Loving Vincent" animated film and "Vincent & Theo" as well. Also, somewhat relatedly, Jeanne Calment (the oldest person to have ever lived) claimed to have known him in her youth.


I have also liked At Eternity's Gate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_Eternity%27s_Gate_(film) so so much. If you can, first watch this, and then "Loving Vincent". I did this coincidentally and was amazed at how these two films enrich each other, in that order.


If you like Van Gogh's work, do not miss the movie "Loving Vincent": http://lovingvincent.com/


It's both an interesting biography of the period surrounding his death, and visually stunning.


There is a theory that TL is the one who cut off VG's ear by accident in a drunkfest.




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