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From my perspective Mozilla is doing a better job with their browser than Google and Apple are, that's why I use it (despite the market share, I prefer their implementation of most things compared to alternatives). Everything else is gravy.

I'm not sure that the money Mozilla spends on other things would be better spent on the browser... would it realistically close any existing gaps between their competition? Arguably they might even be better off spending it on marketing the browser than any technical metric. I'd rather this kind of thing than marketing.



Depends on what metrics you are using. Compatibility, APIs, Performance, Firefox is objectively worse than Chrome on all aspects.

I like Mozilla as a company and I still use Firefox over Chrome knowing that it is objectively a worse browser and experience because I dislike Google and their business practices and i support businesses that I believe in. I am very much against the monopoly Google has over the web space and their positioning to dictate future web standards that will probably benefit their ad revenue over user experience.


I do not remember the last time a website actually failed to work in Firefox. Once in a blue moon I'll come across a site (looking at you, SnapChat) that claims it won't work, but suddenly is just just hunky-dory with a quick User-Agent string swap. We've gotten to a point where if your site doesn't work identically in Firefox and Chrome, you're probably doing something pathological.

With regards to APIs, I'm very happy with Firefox's commitment to telling Google to go fuck itself when it comes to Manifest V3 neutering of adblocking.


Chrome's compatibility is 100%, because it's defined in terms of compatibility with Chrome. (Despite the fact took 21 years before Chromium got a limited subset of MathML, when Firefox had it from Mozilla 1.)

> I am very much against the monopoly Google has over the web space and their positioning to dictate future web standards

Then, to the extent you can, stop using Google-controlled browser engines. Google can only dictate future web "standards" if they're the de-facto standard browser engine… so just refuse to acknowledge them.

If you make websites, use stuff that only works in Firefox (and the indie browsers), like Content MathML, or stick to stuff that works in every browser – and by that, I mean clean, semantic HTML. Force Google to play catch-up for once, or make the whole "catch-up" game irrelevant.

My favourite such feature is alternate stylesheets. Supported by Firefox, and by basically every CSS-supporting indie browser, but by almost none of the Chromiums.


In terms of compatibility, depends what is being tested. Firefox (and IE curiously) have had far better support for splitting content when printing - Chrome requiring odd hacks to avoid bits of elements overlapping the table header/footer when page split for a very long time (last time I retested the situation had somewhat improved. It still had issues with splitting but content no longer merged making hiding the tbody under the thead easier).

Chrome also deliberately broke CSS2 years after it was supposedly completely implemented to simplify their rendering, breaking existing websites. (this was showcased on their "html5 rocks" website at one point to quite a lot of protest from other browsers). Everyone ended having to follow Chrome's lead at that point, but for a while who was "fully compliant" would be up in the air. Amusingly it seems to me anchor positioning Chrome just added to CSS3 allows doing those things they considered un-performant, a decade later.

Google has also implemented rather dubious specs, like WebUSB where it is understandable no one else has implemented yet due to security concerns - but that would also drag down scores further.


Those are the kind of metrics that look nice on paper, but they've all passed a point where I cease to care about any further improvements.


Genuinely asking: Why do you think Firefox is outperforming Chrome / Safari in your opinion?


Firefox mobile allows me to use uBlock Origin. That alone for me is worth more than any other browser features combined.

Now, if I can find how to make it stop opening a new tab every time I enter an URL in the address bar instead of reusing the current tab, the experience would be blissful.


Settings > General > Tabs > Open links in tabs instead of new windows

Is this what you're after?


Not GP, but Firefox runs on every OS I use, Safari does not. Chrome maybe does, but I doubt it.


What OS doesn't run chrome? BSD?


There are no Chrome builds for Linux on ARM, for instance. (There might be Chromium builds but that won't have the proprietary Google stuff like account sync.)


iOS. The browser apps named Chrome and Firefox there are skins over Safari.


general usability experience, privacy, color and image rendering (webkit is bad at scaling down without introducing blur for some reason)




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