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Personally, I understand people need to make money but this tends to be a death spiral (enshittification). So I tend to go for solutions without those incentives at all. Or at least use the free self hosted option.

I wonder why you jumped into the mesh vpn market, it's so saturated. Theres literally hundreds of solutions out there (niche ones included for the mainstream ones it's probably 10 or so), many non profit options included. Is there really a niche you can offer that the others don't?

Edit: ah by doing the same thing you didn't necessarily mean a mesh vpn? I don't really understand what your thing does but not vpn.

I was just saying it because there's a new Show HN mesh VPN thing weekly now.



Another way to counteract enshittification is to pay for things, then stop paying when they enshittify.


just stop paying them, as though migrating to an alternative is free and easy


No it's not. Like moving from Instagram to something else, that's going to be very tough because nobody else is on there. Same with WhatsApp.


In this case it really is easy. It's just wireguard with some NAT negotiation sauce and convenient auth layer.


You're doing the Dropbox rsync comment.


To be fair, only the mesh part of the problem is quadratic. Reliable hole punching is not that easy either. As far as I know, there is a level of circumvention in case the unwrapped WG is blocked too.

The integrated service is very valuable and obviously genuinely popular.


That doesn't really help. It still happens. And you still need to move to something else. And they'll try to tie you in by making migration as tough as possible.




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