Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | 627467's commentslogin

I thought this line of argument ended with the fall of the iron wall. Just because you can put every citizen digging holes to increase gdp it doesnt mean you should

Someone is going to argue that a public path is open to all including delibery robots but:

- its not really about whether delivery robots are "anyone" who deserves the right to compete for a public good nor

- whether any private entity has the right to make unexpected "efficient" use of a public good.

The robot is closer to litter placed on a sidewalk by someone else than a delivery person working for the same company. Act accordingly.

If you're doordash/waymo/etc it's your job to teach your moving box to respect other people on public paths


"Normal people" have never bothered to host their own: photos, music, videos, documents, comunications, etc. To the point that for many their computer is essentially a thin client into someone else's server. Why would we think this same people would care about "personal" inference?

Unpopular take: if it was never critical or mandatory to disclose who you have read before publishing your own writing then you dont need to disclose ai use.

Let the reader decide the value of what they read at face value.

I honestly feel this ai disclosure thing is just pure mindless elitism and worse - entitlement - from readers. "Crappy" writing has always existed, deal with it. Stop reading as soon as you want


Disagree. There's a power imbalance between how easy it is to write something by hand and slap a human label next to AI output. "Let the reader decide" is not fair in a world where the reader then sees >90% AI writing in internet search results.

Remember how the internet works: you request the content. Web content is not a highway billboard you didnt ask for. If you found a "crappy" content consider your referral. We should all consider our sourcing. The world doesn't owe us anything

This kind of thinking assumes quantitative changes never result in qualitative change. Which is demonstrably false. Obviously there are thresholds where phase transitions happen.

Take saltwatwer and cell. After some threshold of saltiness is passed, the water flow reverses from into the cell to away from the cell. And the cell frikkin dies.


This kind of argument doesn't bother to demonstrate the parallel in the logic. This bad form of argumentation should be labelled non rigorous. Then I would've have read it at all.

You never bothered explaining why saltwater is ai writing and readers are cells, nor what the parallel of immersion or osmotic pressure would be.

You lazily wanted me to fill in the details and be convinced. Why did you create this bad argument and leave it unlabelled.


> Web content is not a highway billboard you didnt ask for.

Web content discovery is almost universally funded by advertisers… while yes the core technology is requests based, the things you get recommended are harder to control.

Unfortunately slop is very cheap to produce compared to human generated content and literally endless, so content providers have an incentive to push as much as their users will tolerate.


> Let the reader decide the value of what they read at face value.

The problem is that AI texts are flooding the web and hijacking the attention of humans, their most precious and scarce resource

> Stop reading as soon as you want

Then you already lost time


What if I run it through an AI detection model (eg Pangram) first, and if the shows up as AI I skip it entirely. Does that work for you?

However, you will need to cover multiple models as I've found some get no flag on some engines (unless that one does it? I have only used free sites like GPT-Z, ZG, Gmy, Sapling, Copyleaks)

I'm happy with Pangram so far.

There's already an exit tax, not just in the US

Tax is one thing, permission to physically leave is entirely another issue.

In many countries like "Iron Curtain" back in the day, or Cuba now, or China now... yeah, the USA feels close. If Exit Visa does not come up on your search look up Exit Ban.

If we extrapolate Fable 5 export bans, why not ban the US-citizen researchers from export? It's what the CCP does for theirs'.


I know what an exit visa is. Anyone with any contact with cuba, venezuela, china in the past decades would know. To believe that export control = path to exit visa is an insult to those who actually lived those restrictions and ignorant of past export control restrictions.

Well, I escaped an authorization regime. The USA appears to be another one all of a sudden. I cannot believe what is happening, but it is very much incoming. All the signals are here:

One true party: check

Pay to play: check

Manufactured internal culture war: check

Journalism destroyed: check

Scientists defunded: check

I have seen this playbook before. This is what we escaped from. What in the actual f is happening?


US already bans us nationals from working PRC semi, same with TW, there's functionally already talent ban.

A self-help movement worth their reputation is one that sells more than a book. In fact many give away the book and then charge you a sub for being part of a club

Do we know for sure how much national corpus of knowledge (like dutch) goes into these "global" models and how that affects "localized" model biases? What's wrong with specialized models?

I'm sure contrats between Google and banks provide the financial guarantees that not open-source project would be able to. Unless governments mandate there's zero interest from banks to put extra effort into building for unpopular solutions

I've been using private DNS for couple of years now, almost never miss browser level blocking now

Isn't the original post in Chinese? English is probably llm translated - like the whole blog

LLM translations of non-LLM text don't generally look as bad as this does. Many of the LLM-y traits -- inappropriate overuse of bolding and em-dashes, aggressively punchy sentences, and an essay that seems artifically stretched out to hit a word count -- are not affected by translation.

You can switch to the Chinese language version. Why don't you read that one first before deciding if it's LLM generated.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: